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6:37 p.m. The Committee Adjourns Until 9:00 a.m. On Thursday, January 11, 2006.

The Committee will reconvene at 9:00 a.m. on Thursday.  Sen. Biden will begin with 20 minutes of questioning, followed by 10 minutes for Sen. Feinstein, 10 minutes for Sen. Durbin, and 25 minutes for any other senators wishing to ask follow-up questions.  The Committee will then move to a closed door session with Judge Alito, pursuant to Senate Rule 26.  The Committee will then hear from six panels of outside witnesses on the nomination of Judge Alito.

6:29 p.m. Sen. Coburn Begins His Second Round Of Questioning With Judge Alito.

Sen. Coburn is referring to Judge Alito's involvement with specific groups, and is reinforcing a statement made by Sen. Graham earlier in the day that Judge Alito can't have all of his associations held against him.  Sen. Coburn quickly moves to the issue of abortion, and is reciting health statistics for women who have an abortion.  Sen. Coburn is asking Judge Alito how any court should take into consideration developments in science and technology when considering the question of abortion.  Judge Alito says that you would have to look at the factors that are relevant under the stare decisis analysis, and would then have to look at the baring that would have on the issue discussed, be it abortion or another topic.  Judge Alito says there is no such thing as "bad knowledge," and that judges should be receptive to that knowledge.

6:19 p.m. Sen. Brownback Begins His Second Round Of Questioning With Judge Alito.

Sen. Brownback thanks Judge Alito for his time in answering the Committee's questions, and yields back the remainder of his time.

6:18 p.m. Sen. Durbin Questions Judge Alito About His Personal Religious Beliefs.

Continuing their discussion of the Establishment clause, Sen. Durbin is now asking Judge Alito about the concept of financial support from a government agency to a school to teach religion.

Judge Alito is responding that the Courts have been pretty clear that a government cannot provide money to a school for the purpose of conducting religious education.

6:14 p.m. Sen. Durbin Questions Judge Alito About His Personal Religious Beliefs.

Judge Alito is stating that his personal religious beliefs are important to him in his private life.  He is claiming that his religious beliefs were an important part in how he was raised and how he has raised his children.  Judge Alito is saying that he has a specific role to play as a judge and it does not involve injecting his religious or moral beliefs when reviewing cases and issuing decisions.  He mentions that Americans have the right to worship or not worship as they chose.  Judge Alito is now engaging in a lengthy discussion of the Lee v. Weisman case.

6:07 p.m. Sen. Durbin Begins His Second Round Of Questioning With Judge Alito.

Sen. Durbin is now asking Judge Alito about “unitary executive”.  Sen. Durbin is saying that some believe the unitary executive theory, which gives a president extraordinary power, can lead to a violation of laws, particularly in wartime situations.

In responding, Judge Alito is saying that when he talks about “unitary executive” he is talking about the President’s control over the Executive branch.  The scope of Executive power is an entirely different matter in Judge Alito’s opinion.  Judge Alito believes that there can be a debate over the scope of executive power but that is different than the unitary executive.

5:41 p.m. Sen. Cornyn Continues To Question Judge Alito.

Sen. Cornyn is saying to Judge Alito that it is important that American people see what a competent and knowledgeable judge that Judge Alito has been.   Sen. Cornyn is telling Judge Alito how important it is that he retains his independence as a judge.  Sen. Cornyn is now asking Judge Alito if he expects the issues that make up Brown v. Board of Education to come before the court.  Judge Alito is saying that no, he believes that this is settled law.  Sen. Cornyn is asking Judge Alito if he agrees that he can expect cases related to abortion to come before the court and that it is a current ongoing issue.  Judge Alito agreed with this statement. 

5:31 p.m. Sen. Cornyn Begins His Second Round Of Questioning With Judge Alito.

Sen. Cornyn is saying that Judge Alito’s opponents are desperate to defeat him.  Sen. Cornyn is asking Judge Alito if he knows anything about a witness, Stephan R. Dujack, that was removed from the witness list for the hearing.  Sen. Cornyn is reading an article written by Mr. Dujack that compares the mistreatment of animals to the Holocaust.  Sen. Cornyn is saying that is read that statement to point out the desperation of the Judge’s opponents.  He is saying that the opponents have stumbled and this is evidence of their desperation.   Sen. Cornyn is showing a chart that shows how Judge Alito has answered more questions that Justice Ginsberg did during her hearing.  Sen. Cornyn is saying to Judge Alito that he has been very fair and forthcoming and he believes that the American people would agree with him.

But Sen. Cornyn is also saying that Judge Alito has also shown that he understands the importance of the Judiciary.  Sen. Cornyn is now asking Judge Alito if he thinks he is a clone of Justices Scalia or Thomas or Judge Bork and thinks that he is his own judge.  Judge Alito is responding by saying, “I am who I am” and his record can be determined by looking at his 15-year record as a Judge on the Court of Appeals.  He is saying that anyone who reads his opinions that he has written or joined will see that he is an independent judge.

5:20 p.m. Sen. Schumer Questions Judge Alito About CAP.

Sen. Schumer is asking Judge Alito if he has thought about particular difficult situations that may happen to women in relation to the Thornburg case.  He is asking Judge Alito to think about all the consequences of his 1985 job application that the Constitution does not protect a woman’s right to an abortion.  Sen. Schumer is saying that a strong statement such as this deserves explanation.  Sen. Schumer is now asking Judge Alito about his membership in CAP and asking Judge Alito if he remembers writing a membership check, receiving the organization’s journal, or anything to do with it.  Judge Alito is responding that he doesn’t.  Sen. Schumer is saying that he doesn’t understand how he is a member of several groups, doesn’t remember being a member of this particular group, and then put this organization on this job application.  He is wondering why he somehow plucked this group from others to put on this application and wonders why this group was used. 

Judge Alito is saying that he deplores the statements that are associated with this group and is saying he can’t answer this particular question because he can’t remember being a member of the group and that perhaps it was because of the particular characteristics of the job that he is applying for.  Sen. Schumer is saying that there are unanswered questions here and hopes that the documents the Committee will receive will answer these questions.  Judge Alito is responding that the views associated with this group are not ideas that he would associate himself with and deplores these viewpoints.

5:09 p.m. Sen. Schumer Begins His Second Round Of Questioning With Judge Alito.

Sen. Schumer is clarifying Judge Alito’s earlier statement that he would “keep an open mind”.  Sen. Schumer is saying that this isn’t news because he doesn’t know of any nominee that would say they wouldn’t keep an open mind.  Sen. Schumer said that while Judge Alito has responded to many questions, he has not answered nearly enough.  Sen. Schumer is reading a quote of Justice Thomas pledging he would keep an open mind and is saying that many people were surprised by later rulings by Justice Thomas regarding a right not choose.  Sen. Schumer is asking Judge Alito about settled law and is saying that Judge Alito has said that many issues are settled law, but has not said that on the issue of abortion.  Sen. Schumer is not quoting Judge Alito on many occasions when he said that an issue was settled law.

 

Sen. Schumer is now asking Judge Alito if Roe v. Wade is settled law and is asking why this is the only issue that Judge Alito will not tell the Committee members if this issue is settled law or not.  Judge Alito is saying that is has tried to be as forthcoming as possible and is saying that the line that he has tried to draw is between issues that will come before the court and will not.  Sen. Schumer is asking about commerce and how he can say that this issue is settled law when these cases will come before the court.  Judge Alito is responding that maybe he has been too forthcoming on some issues, but is saying that nominees are usually not as forthcoming on issues that will definitely come before the court.

4:57 p.m. Sen. Graham Continues His Questioning Of Judge Alito. 

Sen. Graham is drawing parallels between Justice Ginsberg's record and Judge Alito's.  He is mentioning writings of Justice Ginsberg's from before her confirmation to the Supreme Court concerning abortion.  Sen. Graham is saying that Justice Ginsberg openly expressed in a paper her position on abortion . Sen. Graham asks Judge Alito if Justices should be required to recuse themselves from cases based on opinions expressed in articles written before they joined the judiciary.  Sen. Graham is saying that he does not question Justice Ginsberg's religion, position, or patriotism.  He is saying that pro-life members of the Senate never considered disqualifying Justice Ginsberg based on these opinions, and he does not believe that Judge Alito should be disqualified based on his opinions on the issue.  Sen. Graham is concluding by reading a letter of support from a former colleague of Judge Alito.

4:48 p.m. Sen. Graham Begins His Second Round Of Questioning With Judge Alito.

Sen. Graham is continuing to question Judge Alito about the Vanguard case.  Sen. Graham says that the American Bar Association does not believe Judge Alito's involvement in the Vanguard case does not reflect poorly on Judge Alito.  Sen. Graham is asking Judge Alito why he would make the conscious decision to not recuse himself.  Judge Alito says that he did not make a decision to not recuse himself, and that he had nothing to to gain by participating in the Vanguard case.

Sen. Graham is now jokingly asking Judge Alito about eating society's at Princeton.  Judge Alito is explaining what selective eating societies at Princeton actually are.  He is using this discussion to determine what kind of diverse company Judge Alito keeps.  Sen. Graham is denoucning the use of "guilt by association" in the questioning of Judge Alito. 

4:39 p.m. Sen. Feingold Continues His Questioning Of Judge Alito.

Sen. Feingold is turning now to the Vanguard issue.  Sen. Feingold is hoping that people will not get the impression that they can recluse themselves from an obligation just because time has passed on an issue.  Sen. Feingold asked if he plans to recluse himself from future Vanguard cases and Judge Alito is saying that the code of judicial ethical conduct does not require him to do that.  Judge Alito is responding that because there are only 9 Justices, Justices should not recluse themselves from cases that they are not required to do so.  In his current position, there is a 3 Judge panel so if he isn’t on the panel, than another Judge would be instead.

4:35 p.m. Sen. Feingold Begins His Second Round Of Questioning With Judge Alito.

After a brief break, Sen. Feingold is asking Judge Alito to elaborate on the briefings and practice sessions he had prior to the hearings and asked the Judge to prefer some materials and present to the Committee tomorrow morning.  Judge Alito said he had no objection to that request.  Sen. Feingold moved onto the topic of capital punishment and death sentences and is speaking about several past cases related this issue.  Sen. Feingold is asking Judge Alito if the law related to ensuring that criminals have proper legal representation is headed in the right direction.  Judge Alito is responding that he agrees with Sen. Feingold on the importance of ensuring proper legal representation and is defending a case in which he ruled that a defendant had proper representation and touted the qualifications of the defense lawyers in this particular case.  Judge Alito added that if a case relating to this issue would come up before the SC in the future, that he would rule on it based on the precedent that has been set in previous SC cases.  Judge Alito is saying that it is appropriate that there be a searching review to ensure that a defendant has received proper representation.  

Sen. Feingold is asking Judge Alito if he thinks that his presence on the court instead of Justice O’Connor would change the court’s direction on this issue.  Judge Alito defended his philosophy and his intention to follow precedent.  Sen. Feingold is telling Judge Alito that a study has found his rulings to be more anti-capital defendant even more than other Republican appointed nominees and he asked the Judge to explain his anti-capital defendant record.  Judge Alito is talking about cases in which he has ruled on both the side of the government and the defendant and is arguing that he looks at each case carefully and has a record that does not lean toward one direction or another.  Sen. Feingold is asking Judge Alito if he thinks the selection of jurors is fair and he is responding that he thinks it is fair and should be fair.  Judge Alito is also saying that he thinks that elected judges are very competent and he says that both appointed and elected judges are, in his opinion, very capable and skilled.  Sen. Feingold is saying that it appears that Judge Alito has less of a concern on these issues than Justice Stevens and Sen. Feingold looks forward to watching how Judge Alito will respond to these issues if he is on the Court.  Sen. Feingold is now asking Judge Alito what is general approach would be to cases involving the Eight Amendment and Judge Alito is responding that he would use set precedent. 

3:56 p.m. Sen. Sessions Begins His Second Round Of Questioning With Judge Alito.

Sen. Sessions is beginning by thanking Judge Alito for his patience and work with the Committee.  Sen. Sessions is discussing the background investigations of the FBI and Department of Justice, as well as the assessments of the American Bar Association and other interest groups.  Sen. Sessions says that these assessments show that Sen. Sessions is an independent judge. Sen. Sessions is reviewing cases in which Judge Alito made rulings on immigration, civil rights, and the environment, listing statistics about how Judge Alito and his panel ruled.  Sen. Sessions is now discussing an article from the National Journal that he believes refutes arguments that have been made against Judge Alito.

Sen. Sessions is now discussing Judge Alito's role in the deciding the Vanguard case.  Sen. Sessions is reading from a letter stating that colleagues of Judge Alito do not believe that Judge Alito, based on his explanation acted in a deliberate manner.  Sen. Sessions is asking if Judge Alito has a sense of how Americans feel about key issues including property rights, privacy, morality and religion.  Judge Alito says that while he can't comment on recent cases or cases before the Court, he says that he can understand how many Americans feel about these issues as they affect them personally, daily, and in the most important ways.

3:44 p.m. Sen. Feinstein Begins Her Second Round Of Questioning With Judge Alito.

Sen. Feinstein begins her second round of questions with the issue Roe v. Wade.  She quotes a statement of Judge Alito’s that called for the overturning of Roe.  Judge Alito states that Roe has been upheld a number of times and that the court may pay due deference to precedent.  Given that, a judge must approach each case with an open mind.  Does he disagree with anything in a dialogue she quotes that took place between Sen. Specter and now-Chief Justice Roberts during his confirmation hearing?  The quote addresses the how one would look at Roe and subsequent cases on the issue of abortion.  Judge Alito agrees that a justice must look at precedent and respect previous decisions by the Supreme Court.  Furthermore, when a decision is upheld it is strengthened as stare decisis.  Nevertheless, on the issue of whether Roe is settled law, Judge Alito states that a judge must not come to a case with his mind already made up on an issue.  When Sen. Feinstein compares the judge’s conservative answers regarding Roe to his more open responses to voting rights, Judge Alito responds that there is pending litigation that involves some of the tenets of Roe.

Sen. Feinstein next turns to a case involving the Clean Water Act, in which a decision put forward by Judge Alito, as commentators stated would have gutted the central premise of the Clear Water Act.  The Supreme Court later heard another case involving a similar question and came to a very different conclusion that the 3rd Circuit decision.  Judge Alito stated that in deference to the Supreme Court decision, he may decide differently on the case the 3rd Circuit heard.  Sen. Feinstein presses forward by stressing the need to also pay deference to Congress’s legislative actions regarding the environment.

The next issue Sen. Feinstein address is Terri Schiavo.  What is the courts role in end-of-life issues?  Judge Alito replies that there are a number of levels that would need to be considered.  However, when it comes to constitutional issues that surround end-of-life issues, the federal courts are a proper venue for considering these issues.  For example, the right to decline treatment, the Supreme Court has rules that that is a constitutionally protected right.

After asking whether there will be further rounds, to which Sen. Specter states that this is a possibility, Sen. Feinstein concludes her second round of questions. 

3:24 p.m. Sen. DeWine Continues To Question Judge Alito About Free Speech.

Sen. DeWine is now bringing up the issue of free speech in the public arena and his concern that we are witnessing a shrinking public forum where citizens can engage in free speech.  Sen. DeWine said that in one recent case, a Wisconsin woman was kicked off a bus when she tried to distribute Bibles on a city bus.  Another example is that in many public places, individuals who want to hold up signs have been restricted to specific zones. These types of restrictions concern Sen. DeWine.  He is now asking Judge Alito what his view is of government restrictions on speech. He wants to know what Judge Alito thinks is proper under the First Amendment.

Judge Alito is responding that freedom of speech is vital to the preservation of our form of government.  The Judge is discussing the different types of forums.  There are private forums, such as someone’s office.  There are also limited public forums, where people can speak freely but only at particular times on particular subjects.  Judge Alito said that even in a limited public forum, the government cannot engage in viewpoint discrimination. 

3:09 p.m. Sen. DeWine Begins His Second Round Of Questioning With Judge Alito.

Sen. DeWine is beginning his remarks by brining up a matter he discussed yesterday with Judge Alito, namely, the issue of appropriate deference by the Supreme Court to Congress. Sen. DeWine is saying that he is very concerned about protecting people with disabilities from discrimination.  Congress has passed a number of laws to protect this segment of our population.  Sen. DeWine is stating firmly that the American with Disabilities Act was a landmark piece of legislation passed by Congress.  Sen. DeWine is now moving to a discussion of the 1999 Olmstead case.

3:02 p.m. Sen. Specter Is Reading Letters From The Concerned Alumni Of Princeton.

Sen. Specter is reading information that was forwarded to him about the concerns raised about Judge Alito affiliation with the Concerned Alumni of Princeton (CAP).  Sen. Specter says that CAP's records do not reflect active participation in the organization by Judge Alito.  Sen. Specter says that he is surprised that Sen. Kennedy did not speak with him before he made requests for the rest of the documents from CAP.  Sen. Specter says that he shares Sen. Kennedy's concern that the Committee has all the facts when considering this nomination.  Sen. Kennedy is now saying that he had thought that as a matter of routine, the Committee would have had access to the information he is requesting, and he is glad that the Committee will now have all the information to consider.

2:51 p.m. Sen. Kohl Begins His Second Round Of Questioning With Judge Alito.

Sen. Kohl begins by asking Judge Alito if he can explain his willingness to answer questions about certain issues that he believes to be settled law and his unwillingness to answer other questions that are more debatable.  Judge Alito says that he finds that he must draw the line where issues that will realistically come before the Court are offered as questions.  Judge Alito says that he does not think that he should offer a position on cases that he will have to rule upon, either in the Supreme Court or on the 3rd Circuit Court.  Judge Alito says that if a case that would overturn Roe v. Wade, he would approach the case in a two part process.  He would first consider the stare decisis that has amassed over past years concerning the issue, and would then consider the merits of the specific case.

Sen. Kohl now moves to the issue of Judge Alito's record.  Sen. Kohl says that he does not believe that Judge Alito would have worked on issues under the Reagan Administration had he not supported the issues and positions of that Administration.  Sen. Kohl now says that he is concerned that Judge Alito is moving away from his record.  Sen. Kohl is now asking how Judge Alito reconciles some of the things that he has said in his past record, and some of the positions he has taken during the hearings.  Judge Alito says that his positions have evolved through the years based on his experiences with the law both in the courtroom, and also through his work with the Reagan Justice Department.

2:33 p.m. Sen. Kyl Begins His Second Round Of Questioning With Judge Alito.

Sen. Kyl is starting off his questioning by diving into the CAP issue that a number of Senators have touched on today during questioning.  Sen. Kyl is clarifying that Judge Alito may have been a member of CAP because of concerns regarding ROTC’s future at Princeton.  Sen. Kyl is now asking Judge Alito if he would take any of the positions that are included in CAP journal and Judge Alito said that he would not.  Sen. Kyl is moving his questioning to his tenure as a Judge.  Sen. Kyl is investigating if Judge Alito rules both for the plaintiff and defendant in a fair manner, not favoring one over the other.  Sen. Kyl is asking Judge Alito if he believes that cases having to do with abortion will come before the court.  Judge Alito is saying that that is likely and in fact there is a case before the Court this term. 

Sen. Kyl would like Judge Alito to explain the reason for the rule that judges do not say a particular view on an issue for issues that might come before the court.  Judge Alito is saying that this allows Judges to carefully study the arguments without bias and Judges shouldn’t decided their opinion on cases before going through the judicial process.  This, Judge Alito, gives the judicial process the respect that it has and giving an opinion before the case is heard and studied would undermine that process.  Sen. Kyl is talking about how critical it is that “justice is blind” and thinks that it is something that should be fought for and preserved.  Sen. Kyl is saying that Justice Blackman, who wrote Roe v. Wade, was quite willing to throw off precedent and Sen. Kyl quoted Justice Blackman as saying that he wanted no part of deciding cases that relate to death, referring to death penalty cases.  Sen. Kyl is now submitting a letter written by Sen. Bill Frist who denounced CAP and said that Judge Alito has his complete confidence and should be considered on the basis of his actions.  Sen. Kyl congratulated Judge Alito for being “quite forthcoming” and for testifying with great though and knowledge on his work and the law in general.

2:22 p.m. Sen. Biden Durbin Tries To Clarify Earlier Statements Made By Sen. Coburn.

Sen. Durbin is taking two minutes to make a point.  He is saying that if Judge Alito did change his mind on the issue of abortion for, as Abraham Lincoln said, “it is better to be right some of the time than wrong all the time.”

2:17 p.m. Sen. Biden Begins His Second Round Of Questioning With Judge Alito.

Sen. Biden begins his second round of questions with the Casey case.  Yesterday, Judge Alito said that he agreed with Justice O’Connor in that a judge should look at the group affected, not the group not affected.  Yet in Judge Alito’s dissent in this case, he said that too small a percentage of women were affected by this law to make a difference.  How does Judge Alito reconcile those two positions?  Judge Alito replied that he looked at the group that would be affected and then at the group that would be barred from abortions – that was his understanding of O’Connor’s standard.  Turning to Alito’s reference to the Thornburg case in his opinion, Sen. Biden discusses the undue burden standard and how that applies to those who were affected.  There is the issue that the absence of health exemption was an undue burden, or the question of what a doctor or clinic must tell a woman seeking an abortion.  Would not then requiring a woman to inform her husband, especially when she fear retribution, abuse, or other ill outcome be an undue burden?  Even though the small percentage of women would be affected by such a law, it is still an undue burden, and this was the position taken by his colleagues and the Supreme Court.

Next Sen. Biden turns to the Hibbs case, which involved employers giving leave for taking care of a family member.  The issue of concern was that women were given more leave, thereby reinforcing the stereotype that women are the caretakers and felt more pressure to take time off from work.  The other case that Sen. Biden discusses involved giving equal sick leave to men and women.  When Congress enacted the Family Leave Act, it expressly stated that leave policies should not penalize a woman for pregnancy-related disabilities. 

Sen. Biden moves to the issues surrounding Judge Alito’s involvement with CAP.  Donning a Princeton baseball cap, Sen. Biden says is now proud to wear this hat because Princeton currently has a high percentage of minorities, and almost half of the ’05 graduating class is female.  Given Judge Alito’s intelligence and background, Sen. Biden is perplexed by the judge’s decision to include CAP on his resume and why he would belong to the group.

1:05 p.m.  The Committee Recesses For Lunch And Will Reconvene At 2:00.

1:02 p.m. Sen. Grassley Questions Judge Alito About His Judicial Philosophy.

Sen. Grassley is now addressing the claim, made by some, that Judge Alito is “way out of the mainstream”. Senator Grassley is stating that in the more than 4,800 cases Judge Alito heard while serving on the Third Circuit, he only dissented in 79 cases. Sen. Grassley does not think there is anything extraordinary about the number of Judge Alito’s dissents.

Senator Grassley is now taking up the issue of legislative history. He is asking Judge Alito what his opinion of legislative history is and how important it is to him as a judge.

In responding, Judge Alito is saying that he has often looked to legislative history when examining federal statutes. Judge Alito is explaining that he begins with the text of the statute, but acknowledges that sometimes there are ambiguities. And in that case, Judge Alito believes it is appropriate to look at the history, although it should be done with caution. He is affirming that examining legislative history does have its place.

12:53 p.m. Sen. Grassley Questions Judge Alito About One Person, One Vote.

Sen. Grassley is asking Judge Alito to clarify his views on many principles.  He is asking him to expand on what Judge Alito meant by saying no one was above or beneath the law.  In responding Judge Alito is stating that every person has equal rights under the law in this country.  That includes people who are poor, those who hold no prestigious position, and so forth.  Sen. Grassley then went on to ask Judge Alito whether or not he believes in the principle of one person, one vote.  In responding, Judge Alito confirmed that he does. He believes it is a fundamental part of our constitutional law.

12:49 p.m. Sen. Grassley Begins His Second Round Of Questioning With Judge Alito.

Sen. Grassley is saying that “many horses have been beaten to death” in this hearing, especially by members on the other side. He thinks Judge Alito is getting hit hard by his opponents and that they are trying to “sack” him and not doing a very good job of it.  Sen. Grassley is saying that in his opinion, Judge Alito has been responsive, forthright and thoughtful.  He believes Senator Alito seems like someone who is very sincere and modest.  Sen. Grassley is saying that it is unfortunate that some are misrepresenting his record on the federal bench. Sen. Grassley is claiming that Judge Alito has ruled in favor of minorities and has ruled against the government in favor of “the small guy” despite what other members of the Judiciary Committee have alleged.   

12:41 p.m. Sen. Kennedy Continues His Second Round Of Questioning With Judge Alito.

Sen. Kennedy is now questioning Judge Alito about his membership of the Concerned Alumni of Princeton (CAP).  Sen. Kennedy is clarifying why Judge Alito thought he may have joined the organization and Judge Alito is saying that he has racked his brain and can only come to the conclusion that he would have joined the organization because of his interest in ROTC on the Princeton campus.  Sen. Kennedy is now reading from several articles from a journal that is put out by the CAP organization.  The articles editorialize on women, minorities, and homosexuals.  Sen. Kennedy is asking Judge Alito if he had read these articles or would align himself with these opinions.  Judge Alito is responding that he has not read these articles and certainly does not agree with the statements in the articles. 

Sen. Kennedy is now questioning Judge Alito on an article in the Wall Street journal that congratulates the President of Princeton University for denouncing CAP.  This article appeared around the time that Judge Alito is said to have joined the organization.  Judge Alito is saying that he did not read the article and did not identify with anything that has to do with this organization.  Judge Alito is saying that he does not consider these views conservative and his only issue with the Administration was his desire to keep ROTC on the Princeton Campus. 

Sen. Kennedy telling Judge Alito that it appears that from 1983-1985 that the ROTC issue was an dead issue because it was secure on campus and popular among students.  This is just about the time Judge Alito was submitting this information on a job application Sen. Kennedy is saying.  Judge Alito is saying that he remembers that the status of the ROTC program on the Princeton campus was a continuing controversy.  Sen. Kennedy is concluding that Judge Alito’s testimony and explanation of his membership in CAP is troubling to him.  Sen. Kennedy is asking Sen. Specter to have a vote to issue a subpoena to retain some documents that relate to Judge Alito’s membership in CAP.  Sen. Specter is responding that he has not received a letter.  Sen. Kennedy is asking that the Committee go into Executive Session to issue this subpoena. Sen. Specter is saying that he has heard this request and will consider it and would like to continue to questioning.    

12:24 p.m. Sen. Kennedy Begins His Second Round Of Questioning With Judge Alito.

Sen. Kennedy began his questioning this morning with the Vanguard topic.  Sen. Kennedy is telling Judge Alito that the pledge he made in front of the Committee to recuse himself of any cases in relation to Vanguard is something that should be taken seriously, and not something that has a time limit.  Sen. Kennedy is angered that some of his colleagues on the committee have suggested that the pledge is like a political pledge that one is not bound by during one’s service.  Sen. Kennedy is asking the Judge how long he thinks that he was bound by the pledge and when he thought he was no longer bound.  Judge Alito is responding that he did not think that the pledge expired and was committed as he is now to not do anything unethical.  He said that the pledge refers to the initial period of service and he does not believe that 12 years after the pledge was made would still be considered the initial period of service. 

12:18 p.m. Sen. Hatch Continues Speaking To Judge Alito About The Vanguard Case.

Sen. Hatch next moves onto the issue of recusal and the cases heard by Judge Alito involving Vanguard.  He further states that in his view, Judge Alito simply made a mistake and that, according to ethics panels, it was not even that grave a mistake.  Sen. Hatch continues criticizing the opponents of Judge Alito's nomination and their criticism as contradictory.  He asks Judge Alito to further explain his dissents in cases.  Judge Alito responds that the first principle he follows is working to ensure there is a majority opinion and therefore a decision in the case.  The second principle he thinks is important is respecting the arguments made by fellow judges.

12:14 p.m. Sen. Hatch Begins His Second Round Of Questioning With Judge Alito.

Sen. Hatch begins his second round of questions by following up on Sen. Durbin’s line of questions about stare decisis.  He states that he believes that Judge Alito has been very consistent on the issue of stare decisis, contrary to Sen. Durbin’s point.  Moving on to “attacks by left wing groups,” Sen. Hatch wants to provide Judge Alito to counter the statements and arguments made by these groups.  Sen. Hatch further claims that these groups only pick out those fact that’s make their point rather than looking at the full context of the issues.  Judge Alito responds by discussing a particular case in which the other appellate judges agreed with him.  In this case, the judges had to look at whether there was any discrimination in the family leave policy of a company.  They determined that there was not enough evidence of discrimination.

Sen. Hatch next turns to the interchange between Sen. Leahy about whether the President can immunize individuals from prosecution and a statement that was circulated saying Judge Alito was unresponsive.  Judge Alito states again that his position on this issue is the President must follow the Constitution and all laws. 

In response to criticisms that litigants will not receive fair hearings, Judge Alito states that he believes that that is an unfair characterization and that he approaches cases with an open mind. 

Sen. Hatch moves on to an number of other cases in which he believes that Judge Alito has been unfairly criticized, as well as those in which Judge Alito wrote opinions in favor the individual.

11:57 a.m. Sen. Leahy Is Questioning Judge Alito About Presidential Signing Statements.

Sen. Leahy is asking Judge Alito what weight he believes the Supreme Court should give to a Presidential signing statement.  Judge Alito says that he does not see a connection between a unitary executive and the weight that should be given to a signing statement.  Sen. Leahy is now asking if Judge Alito if he believes that the President has the authority to force independent agencies to cease investigations.  Judge Alito says that he does not believe that he has ever challenged the authority of independent agencies.  Judge Alito says that Congress can place restrictions on the removal of federal officers provided it does not impede the executive authority of the President.  Sen. Leahy is asking if Judge Alito believes the President has the authority to curtail investigations headed by the Department of Justice.  Judge Alito says that he does not believe the President is above the law, and that one would have to look at the specific facts of the case.  Sen. Leahy is now asking Judge Alito if the President could authorize intelligence agencies to do something that is not allowed by statute.  Judge Alito says that statutes are binding on the President as well as everyone else, and that judges would need to act in an independent and objective fashion when ruling on such a case. 

11:41 a.m. Sen. Leahy Begins His Second Round Of Questioning With Judge Alito.

Sen. Leahy begins by expressing his concern that Judge Alito is retreating from parts of his record.  Sen. Leahy returns to the issue of presidential power.  Sen. Leahy says that when Congress acts to restrain the president's power, it is, in fact, at it's lowest.  He turns to the Hamdi case, and asks Judge Alito his perspective on which of the Court's opinions were correct.  Justice O'Connor wrote the opinion of the majority, and the first question she asked was whether it was legal to hold Hamdi in the case.  Judge Alito says that Justice O'Connor concluded that the authorization of the use of force did not authorize detainment.  Sen. Leahy asks Judge Alito whether he believes in the ruling of the Court, or the dissent in the Hamdi case.  Judge Alito says that he believes the power in this case is divided between the President and the Congress, and that he does not believe that the President, when given the authorization to use force, is not given a blank check.

11:18 a.m. Sen. Specter Questions Judge Alito About Habeas Corpus.

Sen. Specter is now moving to the issue of the ability of the Supreme Court to hear cases concerning habeas corpus.  Sen. Specter asks Judge Alito where he stands on the issue of the Congress being about to take away the jurisdiction of the Supreme Court in cases of habeas corpus.  Judge Alito responds by saying that there are court cases that speak to that issue.

Sen. Specter is now asking Judge Alito about the issues of cameras in the Supreme Court.  Sen. Specter says that Congress is able to talk about key issues, but the Court makes the final decisions in these key issues.  Sen. Specter says that the Congress has the ability to oversee administrative aspects of the Court, including quorums, start dates, and number of members.  However, Sen. Specter asks, why shouldn't the Supreme Court be open to the public through television.  Judge Alito says that he participated in the debate as to whether the 3rd Circuit should allow cameras in their courtroom, and he was supportive of the measure in the 3rd Circuit.  Judge Alito also says that as this will likely come before the Court, and he will not take a position on the issue at this time.

11:10 a.m. Sen. Specter Begins His Second Round Of Questioning With Judge Alito.

Sen. Specter is asking Judge Alito if he believes it is appropriate for the Supreme Court to declare acts of Congress unconstitutional based on Congresses method of thinking.  Sen. Specter says there has been rulings that undercuts the authority of Congress, and Sen. Specter says that we are seeking to attaining equilibrium among the three branches of government.  Judge Alito says that he believes that all the branches of government are equal, and that he would never suggest that judges have superior reasoning than Congress. 

Sen. Specter is moving to the Americans With Disabilities Act and two rulings that govern congruence and proportionality.  Sen. Specter asks Judge Alito if he can explain how Congress is to know what laws will be overturned by the Supreme Court because they exceed what the Supreme Court believes is appropriate under congruence and proportionality.

10:58 a.m. Sen. Coburn Questions Judge Alito About Protecting The Constitution.

Sen. Coburn continues his questions by turning to the Constitution and stating that it is a document meant to protect the weak.  Does Judge Altio agree on the importance of this role of the document?  Judge Alito replies by referring to his parents’ background as immigrants and what he learned from them.  He states that he also considers what he children might face and how the judicial decisions may affect them.  With that response, Sen. Coburn concludes his first round of questions.

10:55 a.m. Sen. Coburn Begins Questioning Judge Alito.

Sen. Coburn begins his first round of questions by submitting a number of documents and statements to the record, including a quote from someone explaining the role and stance of the Concerned Alumni of Princeton (CAP).  He then turns to a discussion of stare decisis, and its role in the American judicial tradition.  Our constitution does not make a reference that the courts must follow stare decisis, but rather we follow it because it is deeply ingrained in our legal traditions.  On the issue of using foreign law in court decisions, Sen. Coburn asks if this is proper.  Judge Alito states that it would not be proper to look to foreign laws in interpreting the U.S. Constitution.  Furthermore, to do so invites a number of different technical questions such as deciding which foreign laws to look at, considering how these countries set up their judiciary, and considering the context of that foreign law.

Regarding Judge Alito’s statements in his 1985 job application, Sen. Coburn states that he believes a person can change their mind.

Moving on to the issue of abortion, Sen. Coburn talks about the health exception that states much abide by and that this has proved difficult to follow.  Sen. Coburn believes that Roe v. Wade was decided incorrectly and submits for the record a number of statements by doctors on this issue.  

Sen. Coburn next moves to Executive Power and responds to critics who use the argument that Judge Alito will be replacing a swing vote.  Sen. Coburn asks whether there is any rule or requirement that the nominee must fit the philosophical mold of the justice he is replacing.  Judge Alito replies that there is no such requirement, that the Constitution gives the President the authority to choose his nominee, and that if he is confirmed, he will be himself.

Sen. Coburn next asks why Judge Alito would want to be a Supreme Court nominee.  Judge Alito lists his various public service positions, including his current position as an appellate judge.  He feels that his work as a judge is what he does best and he looks forward to working on the Supreme Court as a way of furthering his service and participation in the US Judiciary Branch.  He also strongly believes in the importance of judicial restraint. 

10:35 a.m. Sen. Brownback Questions Judge Alito About Religious Displays.

Sen. Brownback is asking Judge Alito if he believes religious displays in public places are acceptable.  Judge Alito is discussing the several cases that on which the Supreme Court has ruled concerning religious symbols.  Sen. Brownback asks Judge Alito if he would prefer a robust town square rather than a bare town square.  Judge Alito says that he believes such displays are consistent with the establishment clause, and has been backed by other rulings by the court.

Sen. Brownback is now questioning Judge Alito about a case in which a student was prevented from expressing his beliefs through his school work.  Judge Alito says that it is important to protect not just free speech in the context of public speech, but also in the context of religious speech.

Sen. Brownback is now moving to the issue of checks and balances.  Sen. Brownback is now asking Judge Alito what he believes the power of the Congress is in defining the jurisdiction of the Supreme Court.  Judge Alito says that the Congress has the power to define the appellate jurisdiction of the Supreme Court, but the scope of the Supreme Court has been debated heavily over the years.  Sen. Brownback says that he believes the Court has been pushed into consider more political issues in recent years, including the issues of abortion and marriage.  Sen. Brownback is now asking about the issue of defining marriage, and expresses concern about state-to-state marriage laws, and the recognition of marriage across state lines.  Judge Alito says that a challenge to the Defense of Marriage Act would call into question the scope of the doctrine, and he believes that there are differing arguments supporting both sides.  Judge Alito also says that as an issue that may likely come before the Court, these would be arguments that would need to be considered. 

10:20 a.m. Sen. Brownback Begins Questioning Judge Alito.

Sen. Brownback opens but submitting several letters in support of Judge Alito to the Committee's record.  Sen. Brownback has asked Judge Alito if he believes that Plessy v. Ferguson was an incorrect ruling by the Supreme Court.  Judge Alito states that he does believe that it was wrong.  Sen. Brownback now has moved to the topic of stare decisis.  He says that Brown v. Board of Education overturned Plessy v. Ferguson, and had the Justices relied on stare decisis, Plessy would never have been overturned.  Judge Alito says it was important that the Court recognized the problems with Plessy.

Sen. Brownback is now moving to the issue of Roe v. Wade.  He is exploring whether Roe is settled law, and is offering several quotes suggesting that Roe is not settled law, but rather that the abortion controversy is better left to the political process.  Sen. Brownback is asking Judge Alito how he generally views the Constitution in light of this issue.  Judge Alito says that he believes the Constitution has it's own meaning, and that it is the job of a judge to interpret the Constitution, not add or subtract from it.  He says that he thinks it is important to recognize that the Constitution is different from statues in several situations.  He says that the Constitution is meant to endure through time, and therefore it requires examination and interpretation with some elasticity.

10:05 a.m. Sen. Durbin Questions Judge Alito About Jurors.

Sen. Durbin is now talking about the composition of juries with respect to race and statistics that have shown that too often African-American jurors have been removed in trials with African-American defendants.  Sen. Durbin is saying that in the past, Judge Alito has not shown enough regard to this issue of racial discrimination in the jury.  He is now talking about another instance when Judge Alito tried to deny a victim of sexual harassment a day a court due to a technical oversight of his attorney.

In his response, Judge Alito is saying that in that case, like in many others, the party needed to raise the issue in the trial court. Absent some extraordinary circumstances, the party shouldn’t be able to raise the issue on appeal, in Judge Alito’s opinion.

9:50 a.m. Sen. Durbin Begins Questioning Judge Alito.

Sen. Durbin is beginning his remarks by discussing two famous cases, namely the Griswold and Brown v. Board of Education cases. He is saying that these cases are a starting point for him when reviewing the qualifications of a nominee to serve on the Supreme Court because they deal with the fundamental rights of privacy and equality.  He is also pressing him on Roe v. Wade and Alito’s answers yesterday with respect to the Roe case.  Sen. Durbin is saying that we have to be able to rely on the Supreme Court to protect our privacy.  He is saying that he can’t understand why Judge Alito finds constitutional support for Griswold and Brown v. Board and not for Roe. He is troubled that Judge Alito does not see Roe as a natural extension of Griswold. 

In his response Judge Alito is saying that Brown v. Board is grounded in the language in the equal protection clause and the 14th Amendment. He is explaining that Griswold addressed the issue of the possession of contraception by married people.  Judge Alito is saying that Roe v. Wade is an important precedent. It has been challenged on a number of occasions and the Supreme Court has reaffirmed the case many times.  Judge Alito is saying the more often a decision is reaffirmed, the more likely people are to rely on it. He is saying that there are still abortion cases in the Courts today.

In following up, Sen. Durbin is saying that he is very concerned by Judge Alito’s answers with respect to Roe v. Wade. He is saying that many people may leave this hearing not knowing if Judge Alito will be the deciding vote to overturn Roe.

9:39 a.m.  Sen. Leahy In His Own Words.

PICTURING THE HEARINGS.  As usual with major news events, some of the best journalism from these hearings is coming from the news photographers who are covering them.

News photography at Capitol Hill hearings always presents special challenges to photojournalists, and the challenges are multiplied when hearings last a week, when scores of news photographers are all covering the same news, and when they have to work within the formal setting and structure of a congressional hearing.

To be successful, news photographers have to be a rugged and adaptable blend of the journalist, the artist and the athlete.  The digital photography revolution also requires today’s photojournalists to be adept with computers and cutting-edge technology.

At these hearings, dozens of news photographers are crowded into the “well” of the hearing room -- the space between the dais, where senators sit, and the witness table, where Judge Alito sits.  The front of the dais where we sit is shrouded in red fabric, and photographers are right up against it.  On Tuesday, as I took my seat and settled in, I discovered some obstacle under the table and I tried a few times to move it out of the way with my foot – until I discovered in mortification that it was a press photographer, wedged in front of the dais. 

So to capture the illuminating images that take the American people right into the scene of a news story, news photographers sometimes also have to suffer indignities like being kicked by their news subjects, including sometimes by senators.  God bless ‘em all for all they do and for all they endure.

9:30 a.m. Sen. Specter Calls Hearings To Order.

 

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