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Marlboro College
February 13, 2001


Marta: What legislation is in place, or proposed, that requires filtering systems on Internet accessible computers at the public schools for these school district to be eligible for Federal or State funding.
Anne: marta hold that question. sen. leahy is not on line yet, it is his staff member, jeff
Marta: need to get charlie in
Senator Leahy: Marta Sen McCain passed a law to keep federal dollars from schools that don't have filters. I opposed that and thought John McCain was wrong. Won't work and will cost libraries a fortune
Anne: marta, do you have a follow up?
Marta: has it been implemented
Senator Leahy: If they are worried about children and computers put the computers in the main reading room. What teenager is going to download Wanda's Wicked Whips with their parents and teachers walking by?
Anne: Nick, your question next
Nick: With the lack of country borders on the internet, how is the Senate Judiciary Committe working with Industry professionals and delegations fromother friendly countries to reach some international consensus and consistency about online privacy laws and regulations?
Senator Leahy: There is a lag time for the FCC to implement rules - frankly I fel this, like the attempt to ban encryption, fails because technology moves too fast [please excuse the typos]
Anne: follow up Nick?
Anne: If not, Barbara next
Nick: thats fine.
Nick: thank you.
Barbara: Senator, what is your take on the Napster ruling? Not privacy, really, but a pervasive issue.
Senator Leahy: Nick some countries take a parochial and evne xenophobic attitude toward the net [some of the activities of France come to mind as well as China] but that is going to be a greater problem for our State Dept and for industry
Senator Leahy: The Eu privacy directive has some good ideas and we should work with them for the best without being too regulatory
Anne: But isn't it a whole different ball game in singapore and china?
Senator Leahy: Napster - the ruling was not unexpected . Creators of music are entitled to compensation but this can become a win-win situation. Let's realize that Napster technology could bring more content online and if it is compensated the choices become even greater
Anne: followup anyone?
Senator Leahy: Singapore and China are different but they are going to find what the U.S. has finally found - that the internet grows so fast that censorship is ultimately impossible.
Anne: thanks, charlie have a question?
Anne: how about bill?
Bill: Yes...
Bill: Senator:If you were to make some predictions about where this country is going regarding the Internet, given the current legislature and administration, in terms of addressing privacy, personalization of web sites, and filtering, what might they be? And what would you recommend that the public do to either help these predictions along or get in their way?
Senator Leahy: I met with Shawn Fanning last week. Told him his technology could well become the basis for music sales in a digital age but content providers will expect compensation even if at a different rate than currently [Napster is moving that way]
Bill: Any predictions about how far we will go wiht personalization and what limits the government might try to implement?
Senator Leahy: There will be a greater emphasis on privacy in the future. Internet communications are becoming like your conversations at home which is why I have expressed concern about Carnivore. We have to be secure in our private dealings.
Senator Leahy: What do you mean by personalization?
Bill: I likied your comments about Carnivore. And what a name!
Senator Leahy: I think the FBI reassigned the person who named it Carnivore!
LaxISM: Should have..Personalization...the ability for sites to make them relate to you and your interests
Anne: Any other threads? If not, Charlie, your next
Charlie: Senator Leahy, Vermont has seen some success in technology careers, IBM, IDX, the new program with Putnam Investments. However it seems that this an area where we should be more aggressive since it is non-polluting, high wage, embraces educational investment, etc <More>
Charlie: The lack of telecommunications infrastructure (i.e. bandwidth) seems to be holding us back. Do you agree, and what steps are being taken through your office and the State government to get the infrastructure Vermont will need to play a leadership role in the 21st century?
Senator Leahy: I personalize some of my sites for particular news, weather, flights etc. I want technology to allow me to determine what I want and not the other way around.
Bill: Thank you. I appreciate your positions.
Senator Leahy: Technology - I am having a business luncheon next week in Vemont where this is on the agenda. I helped get the start-up funds for Vt Interactive TV and now we heped pass a satellite bill to bring greater bandwith for internet to Vermont
Senator Leahy: There is no quesstion Vermont needs greater bandwith accessible everywhere to create the jobs we need.
Anne: charlie? follow, if not, aaron
Charlie: Do you feel the IBM's, the Verizon, the AT&T's will step forward with investment $$?
Senator Leahy: These companies are going to have to invest in their own interest and will. The state of Vermont should also consider further investment and I will continue to bring federal dollars to play.
Aaron: Senator Leahy, this is a great honor and I applaud you for your handling of the recent confirmation hearings.
Charlie: That's great! Thank you, Senator.
Anne: Aaron, your question?
Anne: Sen. Leahy, Do you believe the Network Advertising Initiative prompted by the FTC investigation goes far enough to protect the privacy of individuals on the net, especially since after the initiative came about Nortel announced a new technology on Jan.. 31, 2001, that could secretly track customer's online movements.
Senator Leahy: Thank you - everyone in the office worked very hard on the Ashcroft hearings. Many in the staff worked around the clock to make it work. As you can imagine there are some who think I should be thrown out of office for questioning the nominee but I felt the Attorney General should be for ALL Americans and not for a particular wing of one party.
Senator Leahy: I am happy to see private sector efforts for privacy like the Net Adv Initiative but there has to be a legal framework to go after the bad actors who don't follow the voluntary rules. If you don't have this kind of backstop consumers lose confidence.
Anne: The enforcement action in the initiative seems kind of weak with the self policing
Anne: what law, if any do you see coming about on privacy, the senate or house version
Senator Leahy: Self policing is a good start and gives some direction but as a former prosecutor I like knowing I have a law I can fall back on for those who don't follow the rules.
Anne: Well, how far would you go on privacy?
Senator Leahy: Neither the House or the Senate have a final version on privacy - of course whatever final version comes out has to be agreed to by both bodies.
Senator Leahy: Internet users should be able to determine how much privacy they have. No one questions that you have a right to the privacy of your papers, conversations etc in your home - the internet should be the same.
Anne: john, you have a question
John: Hello Senator Leahy,Thank you for visiting with us this evening. The health care industry is stepping up pressure on the Bush White House to delay sweeping new rules aimed at protecting the privacy of patients, hoping to undo one of the Clinton administration's final directives.
John: Do you think this will happen?
Senator Leahy: I have talked with many people about the regs on privacy. We still need a law and the COngress dropped the ball in not passing one. Regs can be undone easier than laws and I hope the Republican leadership of the House and Senate would realize Americans want more privacy not less.
John: Are you hopeful
Anne: follow?
Senator Leahy: I will keep pushing for privacy legislation - would help if the new President did too!
John: Thank you
Anne: How do you think your peers on the Hill's thinking has changed about the internet over the past five years?
Senator Leahy: Good question. Five years ago many did not understand it and wanted to censor it. I started a bipartisan group to educate Members and it has helped a lot. As more use the net the education becomes easier [I starte the group after the ridiculous so-called Communication Decency Act passed]
Anne: What are your favorite web sites for privacy and in general
Senator Leahy: Not sure I understand the question but I find myself slipping off to see the Irish Times and the Grateful Dead website.
Senator Leahy: Ever read the Onion?
Anne: No,
Diane: yes - very funny!
Senator Leahy: Thanks Dianne - I was worried for a minute!
Rob: very funny
Charlie: The Onion is a riot!!
Aaron:Do you agree with the outcome and process of this case? Do you think there are grounds for a mistrial and lastly was Vermont one of the states that originally brought this suit against Microsoft?
Bill: There is a first part of this question from Aaron:
Bill: I realize this is somewhat off topic but I hope you will indulge me. I am in full agreement with the government's case and subsequent legal findings against Microsoft. I am, however, somewhat concerned about the comments of Judge Jackson that have recently been brought to the public's attention....
Senator Leahy: Don't know whether Vermont was in the original Microsoft case but it is now before the appeals court and i hope it gives a definitive ruling soon. Because of the stakes involved this is not a case that should drag on for long periods of time. It will be interesting to see what AG Ashcroft does with it on appeal.
Anne: some people are locked out of the room, sen. leahy because it is full...they are AIMing their messages and we are forwarding them to the chat
Aaron: Thank you very much!
Senator Leahy: I am very concerned with Judge Jacksons comments. He should not have spoken to the press the way he did but the publication of these comments may give both parties an opportunity to seek a fair settlement.
Senator Leahy: Sorry about those being locked out. Will have time for a couple more questions and than I have to go back to the Senate floor.
Anne: Sen. Leahy, thank you for joining us. I'm the teacher of this group and we're so pleased to have you. Clearly you are a legislator who "gets it" in terms of technology and privacy issues.
Anne: remember attending via the Web in Cambridge, MA an anti-CDA rally in San Francisco. It was an eye opener in terms of how the Web would change politics. How else has it changed, particularly in how candidates market themselves online -- and how advocacy groups use the Web and email?
Senator Leahy: I am enjoying it - it sounds as tho you have a great class and they a great teacher.
Senator Leahy: Fortunately the CDA was found unconstitutional in its most important aspects. Some advocacy groups and candidates market themselves well but keep in mind that just because it is on the net does not mean it is dredible. Everyone still must make up their own mind.
Butch: This has focused on Privacy, however, what position do you take about the taxation of internet purchases? What is your sense about where congress will go in this manner? and finally .. do you think the internet deserves special protection - from interstate sales taxes?
Senator Leahy: Taxation - Sen Wyden, Cong Cox and I have introduced follow - on legislation on internet taxation. My whole statement is on my web site and would be quicker if you took it off there when we get done.
Butch: thanks - I will visit
Anne: Sen. Leahy, we know you have to go. And we thank you so much for this opportunity to chat with you
Senator Leahy: Time for one more
Anne: the floor is open
Rob: do you feel that the COPPA can be put into effect for adults?
Rob: There seems to be many principles there that should be for everyone
Senator Leahy: COPPA - their commission said filtering isn't the answer and Congress still passed the McCain filtering law. Congress should first learn to listen better.
Senator Leahy: Great to be with all of you and now I do have to go . Enjoy Vermont and i will be there in a few days.
John: On behalf of all of the Internet Strategy Management Section, I would like to thank you for your devotion to Internet issues on the Hill
Anne: thanks
Marta: thank you Senator
Charlie: Senator drop in to Brattleboro and vist sometime!
Diane: Thank you, Senator!
Jen: Thank you!
Butch: Thank you Senator Leahy
Nick: thank you very much, Senator Leahy.
David: Thank you Senator.
Bill: Senator: Thank you so much. I am proud to have you as our Senator
Rob: Thank You Senator
Barbara: thanks
Kale: Senator Leahy -- keep up the good work in DC and we'll keep graduating savvy internet strategists to make Vermont the Web capital of the world.


 

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